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Kristy ([personal profile] stargater) wrote2008-07-01 06:33 am

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I should probably start off by apologizing to my FL simply because I'm obsessing this finale like there's no tomorrow and this is probably pretty much what I'm going to be talking about until it's over. Probably for a bit afterward too but then I'll likely return to my regularly scheduled ramblings ;)



I've grown rather fond of the two doctors theory since I first learned of it and especially so within the past week. And even more especially if one of the Doctors go off with Rose. I really want this to happen now, out of all the possibilities and theories that exist, this is the one I'm really hoping for.

So, I was thinking, the Doctor regenerates and splits into two: original!Doctor and hand!Doctor. Now originally when I had thought about this theory I thought well, if one leaves with Rose, which of the two would it be? I had thought that it'd probably be hand!Doctor because I didn't really think original!Doctor would do something like that but now after watching TSE, I think he would. And I want it to be original!Doctor that goes with her.

But then I thought... would they really do that? Split the Doctor in two, have the original one go off to a parallel world and leave the newly regenerated one in our world to carry on? At one time I would have said no, they'd never do that but I've also recently changed my mind about that and decided that it's exactly something RTD might do. And I kind of think it's brilliant. But he's still evil.

By doing this it would allow the Doctor to start off sort of fresh for series 5. The hand!Doctor might not be quite as tainted by all the terrible things that's happened in the past couple years (ie: the loss of Rose the first time, the Master etc...) though I'd definitely want hand!Doctor to have memory of all those things. But it would allow for them to change up the character a bit, he could go back to being like happy!fun!Doctor we had in series 2 or change into something new. The possibilities are endless really for what they could do with it.

I decided after that scene in TSE, that it'd be pretty heartbreaking to not have original!Doctor go with her. Though I would be happy either way, as long as one of them goes with her, but I now definitely want it to be original!Doctor.

I keep thinking about when the Dalek beam hit him and how it only appeared to affect the part of him that was hit. So, if he regenerates and whatever wonky thing is going to happen happens and hand!Doctor is created, for him to be the one left behind he'd have to be a full Time Lord right? Does that mean original!Doctor loses something of himself in the process or will they both be full Time Lords? I'm not against one of them being part human but I kind of want them both to be full Time Lords.

hmmm. So many questions and so few answers. I need to see this like yesterday.

BTW... see my icon? That's what should have happened instead of that damn Dalek. It ex-ter-min-ated my squee. Extermisquee! hmmpff.

[identity profile] amyo67.livejournal.com 2008-07-01 01:53 pm (UTC)(link)
I am totally with you. I felt completely robbed in that scene. I like your theory though. That way everyone is happy. Well, pretty much everyone.
Although, I am worried about Donna, whom I love so much. She is totally awesome.

[identity profile] stargater.livejournal.com 2008-07-01 02:05 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh, I'm super worried about Donna and have been all along. I just haven't speculated much about what might happen with her because I really have absolutely no clue. To be honest, I haven't really cared much for most the theories about her and haven't come up with something better yet. I'm so worried she's gonna die but I want her to be special on her own and do something totally fantastic. Because Donna rocks.

re: ripped off

[identity profile] iolausian.livejournal.com 2008-07-01 04:04 pm (UTC)(link)
I felt pretty robbed, too, but when you think about the way their relationship ended up, it's become missed moments and half-finished sentences, and it's heartbreaking. Poor Rose. Poor Ten.

I think RTD just exterminated the entire fandom.

luv jackie

Re: ripped off

[identity profile] stargater.livejournal.com 2008-07-02 01:36 am (UTC)(link)
it's become missed moments and half-finished sentences, and it's heartbreaking. Poor Rose. Poor Ten. Exactly. Which is why I'm hoping for something of a happy ending at least.

spoilers spoilers spoilers!!

[identity profile] narniadear.livejournal.com 2008-07-01 05:58 pm (UTC)(link)
The part human theory is very interesting. That would mean that hand!doctor would then probably go with Rose....don't you think? If he couldn't be a time lord, he'd probably want to be Rose's booty call. What a great thought.

However, I also love your theory about hand!doctor being a true blue regenerated Doctor with a twist in the personality and everything. What a cool thought. After all this crap it really does seem like original!doctor should go with her. he does deserve it. I remember thinking that it was totally out of character for the Doctor to want to settle down and stop traveling....but now it doesn't seem so unlikely anymore. You know what I mean.

I've gotten past the 'what's going to happen to the Doctor' angst. Now I'm really wondering about Donna. It's widely known that she won't be back next series. Does she just go home? Does she find her fabulous man? Does she go off into the parallel universe with the party? I know RTD wouldn't kill her because killing Donna would probably find him lynched in an alley somewhere, but I'm curious to see how he ties off her story.

Re: spoilers spoilers spoilers!!

[identity profile] stargater.livejournal.com 2008-07-02 01:47 am (UTC)(link)
That was my original assumption as well but then I started to overthink about original!Doctor getting hit by the Dalek beam and now I'm not so sure.

I don't see why hand!Doctor couldn't be a full Time Lord, I mean the hand came from a full Time Lord so it could create one then. Makes sense to me. Like you, I would have agreed that original!Doctor would not have wanted to do domestic or whatnot though my thoughts on that changed after TSE. Also, I don't imagine him just stopping traveling, I would think there'd be something (created by Torchwood, UNIT or otherwise) that would allow them to continue traveling and exploring in some way in the other world. I only wish he'd have a TARDIS, maybe there could be two of those too!

I want Donna to have a happy ending as much as I want this theory to play out. I'm trying to convince myself that she's not going to die but I'm also worrying that they'll do a reset on her. Like she might not have memory of anything that happened and go about living a normal life. I've ran dozens of scenarios through my head on what could be going on with Donna and I just have no idea what they are planning. I just hope it's good because Donna's become one of my most favorite characters.

[identity profile] black-raven-87.livejournal.com 2008-07-01 08:13 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't know what to think about this theory. :x

[identity profile] stargater.livejournal.com 2008-07-02 01:55 am (UTC)(link)
lol. Well there's quite a bit of evidence to support it or something similar to it.

[identity profile] black-raven-87.livejournal.com 2008-07-02 02:12 am (UTC)(link)
Well if it does happen, and one of them goes with Rose, I don't know if I wanna start all over again with TCI Ten even though at the same time it would be nice to see Original Ten happy for once. I can't see him go with her though even if he wanted to. I guess my feeling then is Hand Ten will go with Rose if it does happen.

[identity profile] stargater.livejournal.com 2008-07-02 05:41 am (UTC)(link)
If it does happen like that I kind of think the hand!Doctor would have (at least I hope) all the memories that original!Doctor does. Maybe they transmitted along with the regeneration or something, so it wouldn't be like starting all over.

[identity profile] black-raven-87.livejournal.com 2008-07-02 06:47 am (UTC)(link)
If it does, I hope so as well.

[identity profile] black-raven-87.livejournal.com 2008-07-02 02:15 am (UTC)(link)
I don't even know if I like the idea of two Tens...

idk. :x

[identity profile] stargater.livejournal.com 2008-07-02 05:42 am (UTC)(link)
At first when I learned of the possibilities of two Ten's I was all LOL but then thought about it and decided I liked it. heh

[identity profile] black-raven-87.livejournal.com 2008-07-02 06:47 am (UTC)(link)
I still don't know.